Post by Holden Orson on Dec 3, 2016 23:49:41 GMT -5
“I think he just got sick of hanging around the mid-card and not going anywhere. Probably why he joined up with a bunch of other mid-carders. He hopes it will take him somewhere.”
-UGWC Fan, Detroit Michigan
“He was boring as Holden, so he became The Mainstreamer. That sucked even more so he went back to being Holden Orson. That still sucked so now he's with the Engine of Chaos. Finally realized he was too boring to be alone.”
-Anonymous UGWC Entertainment Professional.
“Holden Orson has shown time and time again that he'll start off strong before fizzling out to make the top tier talent look better in UGWC. He did it for Vain in 2015 and he's started to do it for Travis Roberts in 2016. The entirety of the Syndicate along with Dave Rydell have all ridden his mediocrity to greater success. Look for him to energize the resurgence of guys like Mil Vidas, Jr. and JK before being the cancer that ruins the Engine of Chaos.”
-Corey Moore E-Wrestling News Tragically Hip
“The case of Holden Orson is very intriguing. It seemed obvious that he'd flip back to his Mainstreamer persona shortly after failing to gain traction as UGWC's Hipster Barista. But he didn't, almost just to prove us all wrong. But he hasn't known what to do with it. He was a loner before suddenly joining a group, and two of his new stablemates are people he'd never really interacted with before. He's struggling for help and identity, and the Engine of Chaos is a desperate attempt to find it.”
-Dr. Thomas Melling, Professor of Psychology at University of California – Berkeley, avid wrestling fan.
”He'll never be a World Champion. He had a surprising run as Cross Hemisphere Champion in the first half of 2016 and looked to be a credible threat to Travis Roberts year-long run as UGWC World Champion. The fans even threw him a bone at In Your Hands. But he showed he couldn't focus and let The Crazed Anarchist cost him the match and never recovered. Then he fell into a distracted cycle of medocracy before falling in a random mish-mash of a group now known as the Engine of Chaos. The group's concept is interesting, but that doesn't make Holden himself stand out. He lost what litte of a identity he had in the process. It's a shame.
-Steve Costa, EP Profiles Holden Orson
”Holden Orson is a fraud – I've seen this shit a million times. Men hiding behind fake identities to try and wipe the slate clean. I got his number, I see everything he's trying to do – and eventually someone is gonna call him out on it.”[/b]
-Quentin Barnes, former PPW Paramount Champion
"Oh look, it's Quentin Barnes."
-James Black
The untold story of Holden Orson is his struggle with Maritn's memories. It's surreal feeling things about people you've never met. He remembers feeling and opinions that differ from his own. He has to constantly fight his own memories. It's an experience you simply cannot relate with.
For instance, Martin would have hated the Engine of Chaos. Martin was taught by his mentor, Wafer, to be the best at all cost. It was all about the individual accolades. Both men could readily spout of to you their long list of titles, tournament wins, and big matches. While both men were part of different groups throughout their career, it was always about advancing their own careers. Sharing a title reign? Having to rely on another guy to defend your title? Defending someone else's title? Not seeing you name on the card every week? Their egos couldn't have handled that.
But Maring and Wafer... they would have fit right in with UGWC in their prime. This other part of UGWC. These that aren't a part of the Engine. The title counters. Those who rattle off a list of individual accomplishments. Men who never changed anything.
Martin looked up to Wafer and even fell in love with him after many collabrative years. The story was well told in Martin's swan song run in UGWC. When Wafer died he was devastated and very shortly thereafter, was betrayed by Alan Wallace. His life went to shit, but when Larry surfaced, he still came back to mentor the blood of a man he admired. The story is documented, but having to live with the memory of loving a pair of men you actually detest? Again... you can't relate to that.
Wafer wouldn't have been disappointed at the end of Martin's career. Not because he was homosexual, but because he took a cowardly way out and never fought through his demons. Had Wafer been around, he would have coached him until he was able to capture the UGWC World Title. What's pathetic is that is all it would take to turn around, the awful end of Martin's career. He would of have been happy, and he would have been validated to everyone else. If he could have toppled Vain just one of those times, it would have all been different. Is any single win ever that big? Only to the pathetic. Titles were all that seemed to matter to them. He could have lost it the next day, but they'd want to tack it onto their list of accolades an Martin would have been redeemed. Holden would have never been born. The Mainstreamer would still be strutting around with a sandwich and talking smack to Fear.
Holden would have despised Wafer. He was the epitome of arrogance and the pop culture of what every wrestler thought they should be. Wafer wouldn't like Holden, either. He would rumble like the rest of them about how Holden didn't belong in the Engine of Chaos. He's have something to say like the rest of them.
'Holden could have been so good by himself.'
'You guys started off strong but no one is going to care.'
'Do you guys even have a plan?'
'Why these four guys?'
Holden Orson is not Martin Graber. He does not need a tacky resume of title wins to post on his pro-boards account bio. He found three people who wanted to be noted more the change they caused rather than the titles they won. It started a kinship you simple cannot relate to.
Fear recently commented on how people could not understand a different perspective from their own. No one seemed to truly understand what Holden Orson was about, they were just ready to cast judgment. People don't see the visionary in front of them. He's just someone you cannot relate to.
Scoff.
-UGWC Fan, Detroit Michigan
“He was boring as Holden, so he became The Mainstreamer. That sucked even more so he went back to being Holden Orson. That still sucked so now he's with the Engine of Chaos. Finally realized he was too boring to be alone.”
-Anonymous UGWC Entertainment Professional.
“Holden Orson has shown time and time again that he'll start off strong before fizzling out to make the top tier talent look better in UGWC. He did it for Vain in 2015 and he's started to do it for Travis Roberts in 2016. The entirety of the Syndicate along with Dave Rydell have all ridden his mediocrity to greater success. Look for him to energize the resurgence of guys like Mil Vidas, Jr. and JK before being the cancer that ruins the Engine of Chaos.”
-Corey Moore E-Wrestling News Tragically Hip
“The case of Holden Orson is very intriguing. It seemed obvious that he'd flip back to his Mainstreamer persona shortly after failing to gain traction as UGWC's Hipster Barista. But he didn't, almost just to prove us all wrong. But he hasn't known what to do with it. He was a loner before suddenly joining a group, and two of his new stablemates are people he'd never really interacted with before. He's struggling for help and identity, and the Engine of Chaos is a desperate attempt to find it.”
-Dr. Thomas Melling, Professor of Psychology at University of California – Berkeley, avid wrestling fan.
”He'll never be a World Champion. He had a surprising run as Cross Hemisphere Champion in the first half of 2016 and looked to be a credible threat to Travis Roberts year-long run as UGWC World Champion. The fans even threw him a bone at In Your Hands. But he showed he couldn't focus and let The Crazed Anarchist cost him the match and never recovered. Then he fell into a distracted cycle of medocracy before falling in a random mish-mash of a group now known as the Engine of Chaos. The group's concept is interesting, but that doesn't make Holden himself stand out. He lost what litte of a identity he had in the process. It's a shame.
-Steve Costa, EP Profiles Holden Orson
”Holden Orson is a fraud – I've seen this shit a million times. Men hiding behind fake identities to try and wipe the slate clean. I got his number, I see everything he's trying to do – and eventually someone is gonna call him out on it.”[/b]
-Quentin Barnes, former PPW Paramount Champion
"Oh look, it's Quentin Barnes."
-James Black
The untold story of Holden Orson is his struggle with Maritn's memories. It's surreal feeling things about people you've never met. He remembers feeling and opinions that differ from his own. He has to constantly fight his own memories. It's an experience you simply cannot relate with.
For instance, Martin would have hated the Engine of Chaos. Martin was taught by his mentor, Wafer, to be the best at all cost. It was all about the individual accolades. Both men could readily spout of to you their long list of titles, tournament wins, and big matches. While both men were part of different groups throughout their career, it was always about advancing their own careers. Sharing a title reign? Having to rely on another guy to defend your title? Defending someone else's title? Not seeing you name on the card every week? Their egos couldn't have handled that.
But Maring and Wafer... they would have fit right in with UGWC in their prime. This other part of UGWC. These that aren't a part of the Engine. The title counters. Those who rattle off a list of individual accomplishments. Men who never changed anything.
Martin looked up to Wafer and even fell in love with him after many collabrative years. The story was well told in Martin's swan song run in UGWC. When Wafer died he was devastated and very shortly thereafter, was betrayed by Alan Wallace. His life went to shit, but when Larry surfaced, he still came back to mentor the blood of a man he admired. The story is documented, but having to live with the memory of loving a pair of men you actually detest? Again... you can't relate to that.
Wafer wouldn't have been disappointed at the end of Martin's career. Not because he was homosexual, but because he took a cowardly way out and never fought through his demons. Had Wafer been around, he would have coached him until he was able to capture the UGWC World Title. What's pathetic is that is all it would take to turn around, the awful end of Martin's career. He would of have been happy, and he would have been validated to everyone else. If he could have toppled Vain just one of those times, it would have all been different. Is any single win ever that big? Only to the pathetic. Titles were all that seemed to matter to them. He could have lost it the next day, but they'd want to tack it onto their list of accolades an Martin would have been redeemed. Holden would have never been born. The Mainstreamer would still be strutting around with a sandwich and talking smack to Fear.
Holden would have despised Wafer. He was the epitome of arrogance and the pop culture of what every wrestler thought they should be. Wafer wouldn't like Holden, either. He would rumble like the rest of them about how Holden didn't belong in the Engine of Chaos. He's have something to say like the rest of them.
'Holden could have been so good by himself.'
'You guys started off strong but no one is going to care.'
'Do you guys even have a plan?'
'Why these four guys?'
Holden Orson is not Martin Graber. He does not need a tacky resume of title wins to post on his pro-boards account bio. He found three people who wanted to be noted more the change they caused rather than the titles they won. It started a kinship you simple cannot relate to.
Fear recently commented on how people could not understand a different perspective from their own. No one seemed to truly understand what Holden Orson was about, they were just ready to cast judgment. People don't see the visionary in front of them. He's just someone you cannot relate to.
Scoff.